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		<id>http://192.168.12.226/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Trains&amp;diff=91208</id>
		<title>The Trains</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-07T20:22:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;88.111.158.116: /* Transcript */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Blog&lt;br /&gt;
| name        = The Trains&lt;br /&gt;
| number      = 130&lt;br /&gt;
| image       = KM0130GavinBlanket.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
| caption     = I&#039;m a puppy&lt;br /&gt;
| blogger     = Gavin&lt;br /&gt;
| date        = December 4th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
| url         = {{Bebo|5090601188}}&lt;br /&gt;
| forumid     = 435&lt;br /&gt;
| length      = 1:44&lt;br /&gt;
| description = Don’t watch my video, it’s private. Only Kate is allowed to watch. But no-one else. Especially not the Order. &lt;br /&gt;
| location    = [[Gavin and Charlie&#039;s flat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| Previous    = The Confession&lt;br /&gt;
| Next        = From Above&lt;br /&gt;
| PreviousB   = The List&lt;br /&gt;
| NextB       = I&#039;m not a lonelygirl, am I?&lt;br /&gt;
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{{EpHeader|KM=yes|130}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
(&#039;&#039;Gavin is on the floor in his flat, talking into the camera.  He is wearing a suit jacket and tie, with no shirt&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Gavin:&#039;&#039;&#039; So the tale goes on. Spiraling ever downwards and dragging us all down with it. For instance, how can a perfectly reasonable man - a doctor - [[Dr. Griffin|William Griffin]], end up broke and living like a tramp hating himself, like a lunatic, surrounded by newspaper cuttings? Hmm?&lt;br /&gt;
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(&#039;&#039;A train rumbles by. Gavin gets up, revealing he is wearing no trousers, and runs to the balcony door&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Gavin:&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Yelling outside&#039;&#039;.) Keep sending the trains! You keep sending them! I don&#039;t care! I can take the noise! I can take anything!&lt;br /&gt;
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(&#039;&#039;Gavin slams the door and comes back to the camera&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Gavin:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Charlie]]&#039;s really got herself in it this time. (&#039;&#039;Cut to Gavin standing by the balcony doors&#039;&#039;.) No, she&#039;s alright. She got back alright last night. She said she&#039;s not gonna get involved in it any more. (&#039;&#039;Cut to Gavin back at the camera&#039;&#039;.) Of course she&#039;s gonna get involved. She&#039;s gonna go running around looking for all those new trait positive girls - and you&#039;re gonna chase after her like a little puppy dog.  (&#039;&#039;Cut to Gavin standing by the balcony doors&#039;&#039;.) No, I-I-I&#039;m not stupid. I just... I care about her, that&#039;s all. (&#039;&#039;Cut to Gavin back at the camera&#039;&#039;.) Yeah, you care about her. You really like her. You want to hold her and save her and protect her from [[the Order]]. (&#039;&#039;Laughs. Cut to Gavin standing by the balcony doors&#039;&#039;.) No! I&#039;m not... I&#039;m... Leave me alone! (&#039;&#039;Walks away. Gavin hides under his blanket and turns in circles, barking.  He comes over to the camera and shows his face, panting. Cut to Gavin back at the camera&#039;&#039;.) They&#039;re not gonna get to her through me. They can&#039;t get to me because I don&#039;t care about anybody; I have no weaknesses. Do you hear me? Huh? I have no weaknesses. (&#039;&#039;Laughs.  Gavin looks off camera and hurriedly turns it off&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Gavin&#039;s psychosis seems readily apparent in this video.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gavin&#039;s actions make it appear as though he is conflicted between trying to help Charlie and leaving her alone.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gavin&#039;s psychosis is similar to that of &amp;quot;Tyler Durden&amp;quot; in the movie [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Club_%28film%29 Fight Club]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.226/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Bree%27s_parents&amp;diff=50170</id>
		<title>Talk:Bree&#039;s parents</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-01T13:24:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;88.111.169.40: Biological Parents&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;gee, that&#039;s informative.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 23:59, 10 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Skeeta, if you don&#039;t mind, could you not post comments unless you have something important or constructive to say?  When users log on and go through the Recent Changes to see what&#039;s been going on, it&#039;s really frustrating to have to go through a bunch of sarcastic and/or critical comments that don&#039;t help anyone improve on the wiki.  Thanks. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 00:04, 11 December 2006 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merging ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Personally, I think that all of these different parental pages could (and perhaps should) be condensed in to this single one. There&#039;s not a great deal of information about any one of these characters, and each could simply get a subsection here. Leave the other pages, but make them redirects, of course. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:52, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that sounds like a good idea.  Have a Bree&#039;s parents article, with subsections dedicated to her (adoptive) mom and dad.  Mention that they are not her biological parents (of course), but have no section on Bree&#039;s Biological Mom/Dad/Parents... there&#039;s just no information on them.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:45, 29 January 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And though I&#039;ve been slacking off on this one, I think I&#039;ll take action on that sometime tomorrow and finally merge this little collection of articles.  Promise!  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:15, 14 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bree&#039;s father - Mesh or Greg? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad &amp;quot;talks&amp;quot; to Daniel)]], we get our first glimpse of Bree&#039;s dad (lower half only). It says there that [[Mesh Flinders]] plays her father, yet [[Greg Goodfried]] plays her father in [[On The Run]] as well as [[The Unthinkable Happened]]. I think that there needs to at least be some mention of Mesh playing Bree&#039;s father in the [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad &amp;quot;talks&amp;quot; to Daniel)|Tolstoy Principle video]], although Greg was the latest actor. Unless, of course, Greg actually DID play Bree&#039;s father in that video. --[[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 15:27, 18 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm, [[User:HyeMew|HyeMew]] [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Tolstoy_Principle_%28and_Dad_%22talks%22_to_Daniel%29&amp;amp;diff=33333&amp;amp;oldid=31575 added] that information a couple of weeks ago, although I&#039;m not sure where it came from. [[The Creators]] do sometimes reveal that information, though, so perhaps [[User:HyeMew|HyeMew]] heard it somewhere and added it. If that is the case then a little note should probably be added to this page as well as [[Mesh Flinders]]&#039;s page. It might also warrant a note on the video page, since it is a different actor than we see later.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:40, 18 April 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Under Construction ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Under Construction template has been on this page for a while, but it doesn&#039;t appear that changes have been made for a significant amount of time.  Does anyone know what is going on with this page?  Are edits still being made?  Is there more information that people wish to see on this page that isn&#039;t on here?  Or is it safe to remove the under construction tag? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:51, 27 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, I seem to remember that being added when the pages on Bree&#039;s mother and father were being merged into this one. Since that&#039;s been a while, I think it&#039;s safe to remove the tag.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 23:45, 27 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Biological Parents ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really confused, i&#039;ve been following LG15 for a looong time, and iknow what&#039;s going on and everything. But i have to ask, Does anyone else think that Bree&#039;s Biological Parents really COULD be Jonas&#039;s Parents .. I know there&#039;s some evidence against that, but could someone maybe clear it all up either stating (with reasons) why this could or could not be true. Thank You.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.226/lgpedia/index.php?title=The_Whartons&amp;diff=50169</id>
		<title>The Whartons</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-01T13:19:24Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:LIGATURES ThetaPi.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The &#039;&#039;&#039;[[On The Road Again|symbol]]&#039;&#039;&#039; for his parents&#039; anti-Order movement represented textual criticism and identifying and removing errors from text.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Jonas&#039;s parents were [[Happy Thanksgiving|lost at sea]] six years ago while sailing around the [[Longitude 140|140th longitude]] and no wreckage was ever found.  Jonas explains this incident in his earlier videos and offers no explanation for their mysterious disappearance.  He later mentions that they used to [[Interrogation 101|&amp;quot;do weird stuff&amp;quot;]], and that they were traveling all the time, or constantly out on their boat.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In [[On The Road Again|later videos]], more information about his parents begins to surface.  His father was in an [[On The Road Again|anti-Order movement]] and wrote a thesis on it, which was shared with many high-profile people.  His parents also started a foundation, the goal of which has not been revealed yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Jonas visits his aunt&#039;s house, he discovers a [[My Hand Hurts|scrapbook of news clippings]] compiled by her.  The initials of the people his father CC&#039;d on the thesis matched the people who had disappeared.  He takes this to mean that they had been in an uprising together and gotten snuffed out by [[the Order]].  Jonas assumes that the scrapbook shows that his aunt, [[Alex]], is also anti-Order.  [[Tachyon]] and [[Bree]] suspected [[Lucy!?!?!|otherwise]] and warned Jonas.  When he confronts Alex, she confesses her [[Alex Is...|true allegiances]] and that she did indeed betray his parents.  Adding insult to injury, Alex claims that they are still alive and that they probably don&#039;t remember him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is unknown why, when Alex and Jonas reconciled, he did not ask about the whereabouts of his parents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some fans have speculated that Jonas&#039;s Parents could be Bree&#039;s Biological Parents (Making them siblings), although this is highly unlikely.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{CharIndex}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Unseen characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Grant Steinfeld</title>
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		<updated>2006-10-01T20:38:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;88.111.126.133: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grant Steinfeld&#039;&#039;&#039; was an early participant in the creation of [[Lonelygirl15]].  He was hired to shoot still photography of the project and was involved with the creation of [http://www.lonelygirl15.com lonelygirl15.com].&lt;br /&gt;
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Steinfeld is a San Fransisco area software engineer who originally played the role of [[Bukanator]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Around July, 2006, Steinfeld was shut out of the project.  He went to Candace Murphy, a reporter with [http://www.insidebayarea.com/columnists/candacemurphy insidebayarea.com], told her that Lonelygirl15 was a production and encouraged her to hack into the Lonelygirl15 e-mail accounts to learn the identity of [[The Creators]].&lt;br /&gt;
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He later told a different version of the story to [[Virginia Heffernan]] of the New York Times.  Steinfeld claimed that he grew tired of running the site and dropped out of the project after fans discovered that the site had been registered before the first Lonelygirl15 video was posted on YouTube.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of Steinfeld&#039;s photography of [[Jessica Lee Rose]] was published in the New York Times and were briefly available on Steinfeld&#039;s personal Web site.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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